Monday, February 15, 2016

Battle of the Bibles

he following information is extracted from
a lecture on new Bible translations by Walter Veith. he is SDA but on this subject is good.
(Veith had the idea that Barnabas' letter changed the Sabbath from Saturday to Sunday, but
it only records that this is the case or at least that this is the new focus day the eighth day
the beginning of the new world Christ will bring in later at His Second Coming. Actually you
will find reference to gathering on the first day, Sunday, in Acts and in Corinthians. It was an
established taken for granted fact, oriented around the Lord Jesus Christ's Resurrection, that
Barnabas referred to. The biologically flawed elements in his letter do not have bearing on
his accuracy in referring to established practices, merely show his epistle is not inspired

blavatsky said that the old protestant bibles "poisonous asp" same term as Jesuits
used, were changed esoterically, then gave esoteric meaning, said only SDA would
resist esoteric interpretation. (original blavatsky writings as distinct from the
edited versions.)
Veith got burglarized, son's clothes taken, lectures scrambled and occult books stolen.
wife had operation surgeon wouldn't take her blood to transfer back into her if she
bled, surgeon claimed nothing wrong when things were wrong, house doctor said she was
hemmorrhaging inside she survived. this was in South Africa he was very ill during his
lectures, she recovered. (this information from another video, which included that when
he got a copy of an unexpurgated version of Blavatsky's works, a woman there went
into a fit about it but it was too late to get them back from him, so I wonder if that
surgeon was a theosophist also.)

The Life and Letters of Brooke Foss Wescott, and The life and letters of Fenton John
Anthony Hort. in these it is stated that Hort as well as Wescott rejected the idea of
the infallibility Genesis 1 through 3 and Hort praised Darwin and denied the divinity
of Christ.
(Veith's summary on a video.)

my remarks: clearly, you don't need to harp on some occult spiritualist investigation group membership (which might have infected them and they in their pride
accepted whatever bullshit they thought originated with themselves), never mind the source
of the ideas whether their own flesh, the world or the devil, these were their ideas, and
that should discredit their entire efforts and choices regarding the manuscript type they
Alexandrian type quotes have been found in the early fathers, but that doesn't matter,
because the specific material they used didn't change doctrine, and they were pushing
correct doctrine, but the overall picture is not good, Alexandria was home as was all
of north Africa to various heretical tendencies, and part of the reason for the development
of the creed, and repeated ecumenical councils to deal with one or another or several
heresies, was precisely that such people rarely established themselves in separate "churches"
but attempted to infect all the churches with their false doctrines such didn't announce
they rejected Orthodoxy and moved out they had to be kicked out.
The provenance on ancient documents especially out of north Africa is unknown. A heretic
could have been the scribe that did any one of them or all of them.
If the thief on the Cross said "Jesus" or "Lord" it doesn't matter too much in the larger
context, taken as a thing in itself one could argue as to whether he yet understood Christ
is God in the flesh or not, but if it is taken as an indiciative verse to guide our
faith in Christ in terms of His identity then it MIGHT influence some badly if he only
said "Jesus" and not "Lord." There are other places where "Lord" is left out. in immediate
or larger context it doesn't matter. Treated as a proof text, to some it might.

Nothing in the Bible disproves Roman Catholic doctrine except the filioque, papal supremacy, Marian
excess focus and purgatory as a separate place from hell. The proof texts for the latter used
by RC actually in context are about the Last Judgement.

A BIG issue is Genesis 3:15. Masoretic and Septuagint and Samaritan agree, that the
promise is that the woman's SEED will crush the serpent's head but Jerome mistranslated
it into Latin as that the woman would crush the serpent's head. This is the backbone of such
things as statues and pictures of Mary with her foot on a snake, and a lot of Marian dogma.
 end my remarks.

Hort joined a secret society and was "mainly responsible" for the oath of silence being developed. Called "the Apostles." several influential and important men joined. Letters
Hort Vol. 1 pp. 170-171. Prime Minister of England was in this, wrote the League of Nations Constitution which said all religions should become one.
wanted to get rid of 1 John 5:7 trinitarian statement. Hort to rev. davies life vol 2 p. 128.

Liked a marian shrine La Salette saw it as "God revealing himself now, and not in one form but in many." life vol 1 pp 251, 252
advocated gradualism, incrementalism, till people got used to more and more changes in Bible
and in doctrine. Also, interesting statement: "At present very many orthodox but ratinal men are being unawares acted upon by influences which will assuredly bear good fruit in due time if is allowed to go on quietly: but I fear that a premature crisis would frighten back many into the merest traditionalism." Life, Vol 1, p. 400.
first put alternative readings in margins, then in next translation/revision they are in the text itself.
"It is quite impossible to judge the value of what appear to be trifling alterations merely by reading them one after another. Taken together, they have often important bearings which few would think of at first...The difference between a picture say of Raphael and a feeble copy of it is made up of a number of trivial differences...We have successfully resisted being warned off dangerous ground, where the needs of revision required that it should not be shirked... It is, one can hardly doubts, the beginning of a new period in Church history. So far the angry objectors have reason for their astonishment." Life, pp. 138,  139.

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