Monday, August 25, 2014

the papal supremacy thing

Basically, RC has gotten carnal. It is among those who side with one apostle or major teacher over others, Paul mentions those who say "I am of Paul" or "I am of Cephas" guess who that is as typical of the clique forming fleshly tendencies.

all of these are to point to Jesus. None incl. Peter is to be the head of a party.

I Cor. 1:10-13 "Now I beseech you, brethren, by the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye all speak the same thing, and that there be no divisions among you; but that ye be perfectly joined together in the same mind and in the same judgment.

11 For it hath been declared unto me of you, my brethren, by them which are of the house of Chloe, that there are contentions among you.

12 Now this I say, that every one of you saith, I am of Paul; and I of Apollos; and I of Cephas; and I of Christ.

13 Is Christ divided? was Paul crucified for you? or were ye baptized in the name of Paul?"

continues this theme 

1 Cor 3:1-23
"And I, brethren, could not speak unto you as unto spiritual, but as unto carnal, even as unto babes in Christ.

2 I have fed you with milk, and not with meat: for hitherto ye were not able to bear it, neither yet now are ye able.

3 For ye are yet carnal: for whereas there is among you envying, and strife, and divisions, are ye not carnal, and walk as men?

4 For while one saith, I am of Paul; and another, I am of Apollos; are ye not carnal?

5 Who then is Paul, and who is Apollos, but ministers by whom ye believed, even as the Lord gave to every man?

6 I have planted, Apollos watered; but God gave the increase.

7 So then neither is he that planteth any thing, neither he that watereth; but God that giveth the increase.

8 Now he that planteth and he that watereth are one: and every man shall receive his own reward according to his own labour.

9 For we are labourers together with God: ye are God's husbandry, ye are God's building.

10 According to the grace of God which is given unto me, as a wise masterbuilder, I have laid the foundation, and another buildeth thereon. But let every man take heed how he buildeth thereupon.

11 For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ.

12 Now if any man build upon this foundation gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, stubble;

13 Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is.

14 If any man's work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward.

15 If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.

16 Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?

17 If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are.

18 Let no man deceive himself. If any man among you seemeth to be wise in this world, let him become a fool, that he may be wise.

19 For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God. For it is written, He taketh the wise in their own craftiness.

20 And again, The Lord knoweth the thoughts of the wise, that they are vain.

21 Therefore let no man glory in men. For all things are your's;

22 Whether Paul, or Apollos, or Cephas, or the world, or life, or death, or things present, or things to come; all are your's;

23 And ye are Christ's; and Christ is God's."

notice vs. 22 which incl. Cephas (Peter) as the things that are ours, not we are theirs, and they are not to be focussed on to make a party or division in the church to be head of a clicque.

note this trend, which became developed in the Roman branch of the church, began not with any of the men treated as special leaders, but with the carnal laity who adopted them as such.

Wednesday, August 20, 2014

ISIS run by Turkey, or greatly favored by it.

key excerpts from

Shoebat writes:

Simple Logic Shows Turkey is in Bed with ISIS. When ISIS started a demolition of all shrines and tombs, even those that are attributed to prophets like Jonah and even Muslim religious icons, ISIS blew up these holy places accusing them as magnets to practices considered as sacrilege. Yet, only Turkish shrines were off limits. When it comes to the shrine of the grand father of the Turkish Ottomans “Suleiman Pasha” inside Syria, and in the areas under ISIS, not only did ISIS refrain from destroying these, but facilitated the entry of Turkish troops to such shrines in order to protected them.
When the most extremist Muslim group in the world overlooks what is “sacrilege,” rest assured there is a deal.....
Today the ISIS is estimated at 50,000 fighters 5,000 of which are Turks including 3 million Turkish sympathizers and the Turkish government has not shown any concern. Than we look at the armament sources of arming the ISIS and al-Nusra may come from the Jordanian border, but the bulk amount of weapons, according to reports and investigations and according to Resolution 2170 came from Turkey. This is confirmed when the 27-year-old ISIS commander, identified as Abu Yusef, who traveled to the town of Reyhanlı in the southern province of Hatay explained that they received most of their supplies from across the Turkish border until a recent crackdown against them.
“We used to have some fighters — even high-level members of the Islamic State — getting treated in Turkish hospitals. And also, most of the fighters who joined us in the beginning of the war came via Turkey, and so did our equipment and supplies,” Yusef told the Washington Post....
Perhaps one of the hidden clues that the ISIS baby has Turkish DNA is when the Malaysian police foiled plans this week for a wave of bombings drawn up by pro ISIS terrorists.  “The 19 suspected were formulating plans to bomb pubs, discos and a Malaysian brewery”  said Ayob Khan Mydin, deputy chief of the Malaysian police counter-terrorism division. Ayob Khan told AFP that the group, all Malaysians, had visions of establishing a hard-line Southeast Asian Islamic caliphate spanning Malaysia, Indonesia, Thailand, the Philippines and Singapore, and some of those arrested were apprehended at airports on the way to none other than Turkey to seek training and support from ISIS.

Sunday, August 10, 2014

Bible on "eternal security" (as understood by promoters of this doctrine)

The following is from a debate on youtube
regarding John MacArthur teaching eternal security, in the 
comments section under the video Strange Fire Conference
Part 1

the original criticism is irrelevant to the issue of the video, the
charismatic deception. But someone put it there anyway, 
either to undermine credibility regarding rejecting tongues 
and (false) prophecy, or just to warn people not to accept John
MacArthur unquestioningly on all points just because he is right
on this one, I am not sure. This answer is the best collection of
Bible citations on the subject of "eternal security" I have seen yet.


● Bear good fruit or get thrown into the fire (Jn. 15:6; Mt. 7:193:10).

● Sow to please the Spirit to reap eternal life (Gal. 6:8).

● Do what is right to be righteous (1 Jn. 3:7,8).

● By the Spirit put to death the misdeeds of the body to live (Rom. 8:13b).

● Persist in doing good so that God will give you eternal life (Rom. 2:7).

● Live holy or the second death will have power over you (Heb. 12:14; Rev. 20:6).

● Be afraid (and not arrogant) of getting cut off like the Jews (Rom. 11:20).

● Forgive others who sin against you so that your sins can be forgiven (Mt. 6:14,15) and so you wont be accountable once again for your previously forgiven sins (Mt. 18:21-35).

● Keep yourself pure (1 Tim. 5:22) for the pure in heart will see God (Mt. 5:8).

● Continue to believe on Jesus so that you will live and never die (Jn. 11:25,26).

● Continue in the teaching of Christ or be without God and eternal life (2 Jn. 9; 1 Jn. 2:24,25).

● Hold firmly to the word Paul preached so that your believing is not in vain (1 Cor. 15:2).

● Keep yourself from idols (1 Jn. 5:21), for all idolaters will be thrown into the lake of fire (Rev. 21:8).

● Keep a tight reign on your tongue or your religion is worthless (James 1:26).

● Have your mind set on what the Spirit desires to live in accord with the Spirit (Rom. 8:5).

● Hold firmly till the end the confidence you had at first to share in Christ (Heb. 3:14).

● Remain faithful to God to the very end so you wont be hurt by the lake of fire (Rev. 2:10, 11 cf. 21:8).

● Continue to do the will of the Heavenly Father to live forever (Mt. 7:21; 1 Jn. 2:17).

● Love God for the kingdom of God has been prepared for all who do (1 Cor. 2:9; James 2:5).

● Hold on to your courage and the hope of which you boast to remain Gods house (Heb. 3:6).

● Hate your life in this world to keep it for eternal life (Jn. 12:25).

● Keep making an agonizing effort to enter Gods kingdom doors for many who try will not enter (Lk.13:23,24).

● Hold on to faith and a good conscience to prevent shipwrecking your faith (1 Tim. 1:19).

● Be an overcomer and faithful follower to escape the lake of fire (Rev. 21:7,8; 2:10,11;17:14).

● Continue in Gods kindness and faith or get cut off like the Jews (Rom. 11:19-23).

● Discipline your body and make it your slave so you wont become disqualified (1 Cor. 9:27).

● Stand firm through hatred to the end to be saved (Mt. 10:22).

● Go through many hardships (Acts 14:22).


● Live according to the sinful nature or you will die spiritually (Rom. 8:13).

● Choose to be a friend of this world or you will become an enemy of God (James 4:4).

● Reject God by living an unholy life (1 Thess. 4:7,8).

● Think you are standing firm or you will fall (1 Cor. 10:12 cf. 2 Pet. 1:5-10).

● Defile your temple or God will destroy you (1 Cor. 3:17).

● Wander from the truth and remain unrepentant (James 5:19,20).

● Save your life or you will lose it (Mt. 16:25,26 cf. Mt. 10:28; Rev. 12:11).

● Become lukewarm and remain lukewarm or you'll get spewed out of the body of Christ (Rev.3:15,16).

● Hide your talent so you won't be thrown outside into the darkness where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth (Mt. 25:24-30).

● Believe for a while and in time of testing fall away (Lk. 8:13 cf. Mt. 13:21).

● Sow to please the sinful nature for those who do will reap destruction (Gal. 6:8).

● Live according to the acts of the sinful nature or you will not inherit the kingdom of God (Gal.5:19-21).

● Depart from the Father to a life of unrestrained sinning or you will become spiritually dead and lost (Lk. 15:24,32).

● Become a drunkard, sexually immoral, greedy, a liar, etc., which will cause you to not inherit the kingdom of God but instead end up in the lake of fire (1 Cor. 6:9,10; Gal. 5:19-21; Eph. 5:5-7; Rev. 21:8; 22:15; Mk. 7:20-23).

● Worship the beast, his image or receive his mark, because all who do will be tormented forever with burning sulfur (Rev. 14:9-12).

● Take words away from this book of prophecy and have God take from you your share in the tree of life and the holy city (Rev. 22:19).

● Preach a false gospel and become eternally condemned (Gal. 1:8,9).

● Soil your spiritual clothes and stay that way or you will be unworthy to be with Jesus (Rev. 3:2-5).

● Forsake Jesus and God as your first love and remain unrepentant or forfeit your right to the tree of life in the paradise of God (Rev. 2:4-7).

● Look back now that you have put your hand to the plow or you won’t be fit for Gods kingdom (Lk. 9:62).

● Become impure, shameful or deceitful or you will not enter New Jerusalem (Rev. 21:27).

● Fall from grace or Christ will be of no benefit to you (Gal. 5:4).

● Be overcome by evil but instead overcome evil with good (Rom. 12:21).

● Forsake God and he’ll forsake you and you'll perish (2 Chron. 15:2; Isa. 1:28).

● Turn to crooked ways and get banished with evildoers (Psa. 125:5).

● Stray from the path of understanding and come to rest with the spiritually dead (Pr. 21:16).

● Turn from your righteousness and do evil or you will die spiritually (Ezek. 3:2018:2433:18; Rom. 8:13).

● Disown Christ or he will disown you (Mt.10:33).

Why would we be given all of these CONDITIONS and WARNINGS for US to heed, if there were really no free will or Hell to be concerned about?  These are clearly CONDITIONAL warnings for believers.  "Believing" in Jesus is a continuing relationship of confidence and obedience. If you stop believing and choose to sin, then you stop being a believer, and you fall into unbelief. Paul talks about that in Romans 11 a lot. He said that some Jews were cut off, and, 'you too will be cut off if you do not continue in God's kindness.'  What's the point of all these warnings?? It is not the faith you had 20 years ago that will save you, it is the faith you have at the end. Stop believing the devil’s 1st lie of Gen.3:4 that sinning Christians won’t die.

Sunday, August 3, 2014

excellent article on Mircea Eliade

on Constance Cumbey's blog, someone
commented that the purpose of the book this is from, was to separate
the New Age Movement from its Nazi connections and Nazi mysticism
roots (tracing to Blavatsky), but that "the details in it are accurate."

That is the important point, that the details are accurate. And those
details will undoubtedly compromise the purpose of the book, or
lead to information that does.

It is sometimes important to ignore the purpose of an author, and
look at the source referenced facts the writer provides.

Saturday, August 2, 2014

economic systems problems

the interventionist model is not a hybrid, though it looks like that to us partly due to propaganda. In fact it is the original model, whether tribal laws or kings regulate some processes and prices and practices and what can and can't be sold.

Capitalism as you describe it, presupposes the goodness of humanity left to itself, unregulated, which is biblically false.

the "claim that capitalism inevitably and necessarily encourages individual actions and produces social structures that oppress and harm people" is true enough, when the capitalist has enough money and enough control over others through the govt., or through being the only game in town having ganged up with his or her peers to eliminate competition. The abuses of the 1800s that led to the union movement ended in laws that made mandatory things about safety and pay and so forth that once were to be had only through strikes (which were often suppressed by police and army gunfire at the request of the big crony capitalists), and we take for granted. (Also added by some laws and court decisions were limitations on big money power to combine and set prices and so forth. These anti trust and so forth laws have increasingly been undermined or evaded.)

socialism presupposes human goodness in that supposedly a central controlling dictating body will be virtuous though made up of fallen humans.

the interventionist model is the only thing that balances all these things. Because of human evil it will not always work perfectly either, but it is more easily corrected if there is a free press, that is not owned (as now) by a handful of super rich elites at the top of a plethora of corporations, transparency, and the popular vote.

charismatic words translated as vedic sanskrit - and pagan as hell.

NOTE: I was always ambiguous about tongues and the healing
and prophecy thing is clearly false most of the time. But from
my own experience and similar statement by an ex tongues 
talker, I never knew anyone who did this who was worth a damn.
This practice simply cripples your walk in Christ and your growth
and keeps you from having fruits of The Holy Spirit which are
character changes for the better, self control, etc., not miraculous
abilities. But one event where I ran into a clear demonic manifestation
I could see paranormally through a phone from a person I was talking
with who wanted me to pray with not separately so we could be "of
one mind," in other words, a hive mind joining sort of thing, which is
ipso facto evil, convinced me this is all a deception. And then there is
this, and this isn't the first time a tongues speech has been heard by
someone who spoke the language being used, and it was real, but it
was saying bad things. 

The slain in the spirit phenomenon is unbiblical, falling backwards is
being under judgement in The Bible, and it like the shakti pat transferrence
of an occult current from a guru who has the power to do this. 
quote follows.]

1. Shandilyamai Shundai-

These are the single two most common buzz words used by Charismatics during tongues speaking sessions. I first heard R.W. Shambaugh use them in the days of radio preaching. These two words are often interjected in a preaching time like the Old Testament word, "Selah." They give the impression that the speaker is on the razor edge of full power, and he can hardly keep from lapsing into full blown tongues speaking.
You will never find anyone who has interpreted the above words or heard an interpretation. Since I wrote that last statement, someone will no doubt come up with an interpretation, but my claim still stands. I have asked around, and Charismatics can't give an interpretation for Shandilyamai Shundai.
Therefore; I shall interpret the words, and it will not be by the "gift of interpretation." I shall use my research into Vedanta Hinduism, epigraphic evidences from the Middle East, the King James Bible, and consultations with five informed Hindus from India. What follows will terrify a truly born again Charismatic, or old time Pentecostal, who really loves Jesus Christ and the King James Bible.
Shandilyamai is derived from two concepts within the Hindu Vedanta word:
Shandilyavedya- Which we will break into two root words:
Shandilya Vedya- Which we will define from my Vedanta dictionary (published in India) and the response of the five Hindus from India whom I consulted:
Shandilya- Means, "In praise of the ideal glory of..."
This is the meditation aspect of the word. The Hindu mystic goes through massive destruction of the conscious mind so that only "pure" unconsciousness remains. Some people call this demon possession. So, the thought, "In praise of the ideal glory of..." must be understood in the light of the Hindu mind.
Vedya- "The Brahman consciousness." So the whole word means:
Shandilyavedya- "In praise of the ideal glorious Brahman mind."
Well, you can see that the Charismatic buzz word ends with "mai" rather than with "Vedya." So, we must find out what the "mai" ending means. Again, from my Vedanta dictionary and five Hindu consultants:
Meeya- The female goddess / mother. When I talked to one educated Hindu, she told me that the "mai" on the end of "shandilyamai" was a mother goddess, "Just like your Mary..." She thought that I was a Roman Catholic because I told her I was a Christian. There is another Vedanta Hindu word  possible:
Maya- This is "ILLUSION." ALL Hindus want to get to the point in meditation where they become one with the Brahman, and earthly things become 100% illusion..
We can now define Shandilyamai, and you have two choices on the next Lord's Day:
Shandilyameeya- "In praise of the ideal glorious mother goddess." In Hinduism that would be blood thirsty Kali, the terror of all Hindus. OR:
Shandilyamaya- "In praise of the effulgent ideal illusive unconsciousness in the Brahman." Any of you who have studied the New Age will clearly understand the ramifications of this notion.
The "mai" on the end of the Charismatic buzz word has simply deteriorated so that it is hard to be sure which Hindu ending is the correct one. Every one of the Hindus I talked to was convinced that "Shandilyamai" was Vedanta Hindu in origin. I did not tell them the context of the use so that they would be willing to talk to me. Also, I did not want to give Christ's enemies cause to blaspheme. The fact that many Charismatic leaders use these words is very timely for our consideration.
All five of my Hindu consultants felt that the word was exaltation of the goddess Kali.Read that again please.
This word comes up thousands of times in Charismatic circles, and by the most respected leading lights of the movement. This situation give substance to claims that devils are ruling the "worship" and "tongues" sessions of these dear people. I did not say they were unsaved, but anyone who exalts Kali, or the Brahman mind, in a Bible believing gathering HAS to be under demonic control. Why? Because they have gotten so comfortable with this blasphemy that it is never interpreted. God's Spirit ALWAYS interprets a "tongue."
I had one Assembly of God pastor tell me, "Well, the Hindus stole it from us." Wrong!  This Vedanta word, "Shandilyavedya" and the words, "Maya" and "Meeya" were in common use in 700 BC by the Isa Upanishads-  possibly as early as 1000 BC.
If you have used this word in God's face, claiming that it came from the Holy Ghost, you have no way out of this mess except to fall on your knees (not "slain" on your backside), and confess your foul words to God. He will forgive you. I John 1:9
Now you have a real problem. Are you going to let this blasphemy go on in your assembly? Perhaps this learning experience will encourage you to move from the devilish temple of emotional frenzy which you attend, and join one of the many house churches springing up. Many Charismatics are doing this today.
What about the word "Shundai?" This almost always goes after "Shandilyamai." I have yet to learn its meaning. I have been told by several Hindus that it is probably Sanskrit because its ending agrees grammatically with "Shandilyamai." I would be very interested to learn if someone finds out what it means. Send INTERNET E-Mail I have a strong suspicion that it is sexually explicit since the Hindus I consulted all felt that the goddess ending was the most logical one. All Hindu goddess cults are sexual.
Once confronted with these facts from Hinduism, any Charismatic who will not be cleansed from these words must be considered a heretic, unsaved, and he must be placed under the Anathema in the Lord's Church. This is the charitable thing to do.
"Shundai" is being exposed. Be careful, for this is goddess stuff from the Orient I believe, and it is being used as a buzz word for Oriental porn: -- Japanese goddess connection -- A Confucian Japanese philosopher !! -- Same philosopher arguing about what is pure Buddhism, Shintoism, and Confucianism. -- What a fellowship of devils this "Shundai" keeps. --
Sundara (masc.), related to Shundai (fem.) as near as I can tell, is a very pagan Hare Krishna form. See the male female endingHERE.
Sundara is also used as feminine.

There seems to be a connection between the goddess / god paganism of India and the Oriental Confucian notions. But, the most obvious connection here is the Indian Hindu one. This also agrees with the grammatical agreement of "Shundai" with "Shandilyamai." More needs to be done on this in Sanskrit, but the obvious conclusion is that the Charismatic use of these words is the most powerful blasphemy of the Holy Ghost.


WHAT IS THE USE OF "SHUNDAI" HERE? Charismatic folly me thinks:
" Hey Morales! Your awesome {shundai}!! I think you are sooo right about the Revival Generation, but we need something like that ..... we have been promised revival right?? That's who were are {a revival generation}, Im holding onto to the promise but maybe not that name!!LOL: ) haha! See you all soon! Kerrie-Lynn - Monday, November 22, 1999 at 15:21:31 (EST) "

SAME SITE-- Second message-- This proves the use of this filthy word in Charismania
"kerrie's suggestion is great, but i think that it has been used before... there are albums called revival generation, and i think that the name was used in their website, but i'm not sure. anyway here's a suggestion...shundai generation. most of the people that see that suggestion won't understand it, but the rhode island people should.(shundai is a word in pastor Mike Servello's tongues... scott kinder uses it when describing something spiritual (scott is our church's drummer)).there you go then... josh morales smithfield,ri, usa - Monday, November 22, 1999 at 04:17:39 (EST) "
Tongues speaking Pentecostal talks about being teased as a young woman by people using a catch word phrase which included the word "Shundai".
Elsewhere: "Shundai, rhondagottaablue Hyundai"
Same forum: "I have a friend who told me (and was quite serious) that when she wanted to speak in tongues she would say "shouldaboughtahonda...." (with something tagged onto the end I never quite heard what she said...) to "help" her start speaking in tongues Must be universal charismatic speak? ha."
Same forum: "If, in your rascally misspent youth, you happened to have memorized the prologue to The Canterbury Tales in Old English, it can pass as "tongues" quite well unless you have a pretty well educated buncha charismatics. Just sayin. (And taking the 5th Amendment from here out)."

Alleged Evangelist Juanita Bynum claims the "spiritual gift" of typing in tongues.
The problem is, her alleged messages from God have few if any vowels and are virtually unpronounceable.

If you ever hear the words, "Manisola" or "Shamballa" during tongues speaking sessions, check out their origin.
 [NOTE using for the URL on this "check out their origin," since
it is now defunct, I find this term manisola refers to a New Age false light
earth path to the divine sort of bullshit.]

1.5 Shambhala (Added 2013)
This word has been coming up in Charismatic tongues speaking since at least the 1950s. It may well be the buss word that should have signaled Pentecostals long ago that Satan had send devils to administers Pentecostalism. I heard this word bandied about among fluff headed missionaries in Tanzania in the 1950s when I was a kid growing up in a missionary home. Where were the rest of you diddle heads?
So, what is the origin of Shambhala? The spelling should cause a student of the history of world religion to panic, that is, if that person is a Bible believer hearing it in tongues speaking in his church. Problem-- There are probably not more than two Pentecostals worldwide who have really studied world religion, and not many more Fundamental Bible Believers.
Cave complex under the Himalayas from a ruined Gobi Desert area society. Their traditions include: Working the left-hand path; Doing Tantrik Magick; The study of science and yoga. It is said that the next avatara will come from Shambhala.