Here's How It All Started Folks! The Christian Right Political Movement a Spawn of Moonie Hell!

A lot of people don't know this, and others have forgotten. But the whole Christian Right movement we know today, as distinct from earlier manifestations which had their own immoral or otherwise unbiblical "networking" problems, began when some fool preacher with a big following decided that we should all back up the unreverend moon in his fight with the IRS.

Seems the blasphemous and heretical sonofabitch and false messiah, who claims to be the Second Coming or Christ's replacement, or something like that, claimed that he owed no taxes, because you can't tax a church, and he being godintheflesh WAS the church so owed no personal income taxes, period.

The resulting government action was styled "religious persecution" and some people feeling oh so

holy and realpolitik and above others for the insight it takes (or rather lack of same) to partner with

such a person, said that if Moon is the target now, we will be the target next. Ignoring that the issue

was that his claim was such that we as Christian should hold him as anathema and an abomination.

Meanwhile about the same time, some hairbrained Baptist minister in I think it was Washington

state, was running a church school for children, that was not Sunday school but regular schooling,

and refused to use accredited teachers or accredited text books.

Now, there is no difficulty I am sure in finding Christians even of his denomination, who are

accredited teachers.  And if the accredited texts include stuff repugnant, that is easy to turn

into an occasion to train against such content, by presenting the content and in the secular 

education relevant class, such secular postions as are against it and time the Sunday school

to the biblical reasons against it or some such arrangement. 

But in his pride and arrogance he refused to follow the reasonable government guidelines,

rebelling against St. Paul's admonitions to obey government when it doesn't directly and

explicitly attack Christianity. so the State of Washington or maybe it was his county, 

locked the building. I think he cut the bolt, and here comes the judge.

So these two incidents, blown up to being "religious persecution" were sold to the

political movement as an end in itself seeking evangelical leaders, as something to back,

when they should have mocked it. 

I remember one person on TV (I don't remember if it was Constance Cumbey or 

someone else) commented that God has two arms, the church and the state, and in 

the Moon case God had used the state to attack something bad, and we Christians

should cheer instead of supporting this. (Now that I think about it, it might have
been that Baptist minister in Washington state that was being discussed, and that
he also had been networking with the moonies. There was moonie money in the
Bush scene also.) I thought it was a good point. It wasn't a 

full shutdown of course, but it was undermining of him and perhaps of his status 

in the eyes of some who might be deceived, but were open to being affected by 

official views outside of churches real or false. 

I also remember, that when I started to commit myself to what I saw as a useful

thing, the right wing agenda and see if I could manage a conservative version of

a feminist movement, something seemed to tell me I was prostituting myself,

like the concept of a media whore or something. I thought, and then shrugged it

off. But that voice like thought, probably from an angel who at one point then

or later had a hand in my losing a carborundum pendant I was using as a 

pendulum device when I was still messing with some of the occult thinking some

of it was salvageable from the realm of darkness, was correct, and as time wore

on, though I didn't go into full darkness, I did find in retrospect that political

focus eclipsed religious focus, while pretending to be a manifestation of it. I

didn't buy the Moon and whatsisname support as a good thing, but the overall

movement of Christian conservative political action and gung ho as an end in 

itself, looking for an outlet, was the big thing. As Screwtape said, it doesn't 

matter what is on the other side of "and" in "Christianity and...." so long as it

grows to replace the Christianity part. My doubts were always overshadowed

by the communist menace, but the fall of the Iron Curtain freed me to whole

hog reject the problematic right.

Of course, the anti gay and anti abortion positions are important, but let's

face it, the president doesn't rule by decree so it doesn't matter a rat's ass

what his position is on anything like that, what is more important is the

corrupt and fascistic and immoral and secretly perverted and even satanic

networks that the Republican Party has come to more and more consist of

and even then there were signs of it. Some of which are invisible to anyone

who thinks gung ho fleshliness is okay as long as it has a Christian label

and doesn't examine the underlying drives.

I was in theory against welfare and for the free market and minimal govt.,

but in practice until something better could be set up, that WORKED, 

I never denounced anyone for being on it, and helped some who were

and who couldn't make it on the amount they had, especially one with kids

and a drug user "old man." Free or minimal fee services are essential.

Knocking around in my mind however were a few points I'd picked up,

incl. a radio speaker who pointed out that nowhere in The Bible does

God mandate any one form of government, all He cares about is what 

will get His will done in that situation at that time, and that we should

pay our taxes.

Finally a good read of the Constitution again, and a lot of other things,

made me realize the whole conservative movement especially the militia

and related forms of interpretation and the economic theories that drove

it, were a pack of lies.

begins here the article that rang a bell. 

Justina

ALLIANCE BETWEEN
EVANGELICALS
AND THE MOONIES

Written By
S. R. Shearer

The Unification Church of the Rev. Sun Myung Moon embodies within its doctrine a particularly vile heresy: that not only did Jesus fail in His earthly ministry, but that He had sex with the women who followed Him. The attack here is not one that is aimed only at His work on the Cross, but at Him personally as a moral Being.

That any Christian in good conscience could have even the most indirect contact with such people defies all logic and rationale; and more, that Christians should involve themselves in a political alliance with them to "take back the nation for Christ" is "oxymoronic." There is simply no sense to it.

Yet this is precisely what is happening! - and perhaps more than anything else, it reveals the deadly spiritual and theological pathology involved in the lives of those who are embracing "Christian political action." In 1986 reporters questioned Christian Voice's Colonel Doner about his involvement with the Unification Church. He responded, "CAUSA (Moon's political arm) is an anticommunist organization. It's a funding source. CAUSA is anticommunist and personally I'm for anybody that's anticommunist. The Mormons are the same. I'm not going to lend credence to their organization, but networking, I'm happy to network with them." Does that mean that its OK for Christians to ally themselves with the Nazis, the KKK, the Death Squads, etc.? - they're all anticommunists. The answer is apparently, "Yes!"

Ron Godwin, the former second in command to Jerry Falwell in the Moral Majority now is the business manager for Moon's weekly magazine, Insight. The head of the National Religious Broadcasters, Ben Armstrong, along with TBN's Paul Crouch and Bible teacher Hal Lindsey are on the board of Moon's dominated Coalition for Religious Freedom. James Robison, Rex Humbard, and James Kennedy are also members, as is Tim LaHaye. This is to say nothing of Robert Grant, Gary Jarmin and Colonel Doner.

LaHaye's involvement with the Rev. Moon is particularly vile. In 1985 Carolyn Weaver, writing in Mother Jones Magazine, exposed the fact that LaHaye had received substantial funds from Moon's Bo Hi Pak.

She based her report on a cassette tape inadvertently provided to her by an aide to Beverly LaHaye; it was a dictation of a letter from LaHaye to his secretary to be typed and sent to Bo Hi Pak thanking him for a substantial contribution of funds (estimated by some to have been over $500,000.00). A friend of ours - well known in Christian circles - upon reading the article, phoned LaHaye to ascertain the facts. But rather than dealing with the issue - whether or not he took the money - he attacked the source, Mother Jones Magazine, as a "left-wing ragsheet."

Our friend answered, "I don't care if the source was Pravda or Izvestia (two well known Communist papers), is it true?" He angrily hung up the phone. He has since apparently denied the story, most likely compounding his error with a lie. And the fact that he continues to involve himself with Moonie front organizations tends to give credence to Carolyn Weaver - after all, there seems to be very little doubt that the voice on the tape is LaHaye's.

Written By S. R. Shearer
Antipas Ministries

A hilarious look at the end of the world from a top prepper

http://www.youtube.com/user/dsarti1#p/search/0/eziGnnwJMl4

prepper for those who don't know the lingo, is someone into
preparedness, as distinct from a survivalist.

THE MEN WHO GATHERED THEMSELVES TOGETHER AT CLINT MURCHISAN'S DALLAS HOME FORTY-FIVE YEARS AGO

everyone should read this. even if you don't buy the JFK angle,
the history of American pseudo Christian worship of wealth
and Biblical condemnations of same are important.

14 Reasons Why We Should Nationalize the Federal Reserve

read this article, excellent material and suggestions.
http://members.beforeitsnews.com/story/1332/540/NL/14_Reasons_Why_We_Should_Nationalize_The_Federal_Reserve.html?currentSplittedPage=0

"Right now, most Americans believe that the Federal Reserve is 
actually an agency of the federal government.  But that is simply 
not the case.  The truth is that the Federal Reserve is about as 
"federal" as Federal Express is.

The Federal Reserve openly admits as much.  For example, in 

defending itself againsPublish Postt a Bloomberg request for information 

under the Freedom of Information Act, the Federal Reserve 

stated in court that it was "not an agency" of the U.S. government 

and therefore not subject to the Freedom of Information Act.""

YHWH is always getting a bad rap.

And I think this is despicable. Especially on the part of people
who have presumably read the entire Bible or large sections
of it, and the New Testament, and especially when they have
fast and efficient (?) minds. I put the question mark there,
because more than IQ is at work in "brains."

This is demonstrated by some studies that showed that high IQ
in children do not always result in success later. It is other factors
playing a role, incl. emotional and social issues.

Among the emotional issues, one that can operate hidden, not
showing as a "feeling" or "emotion" until it is challenged, but
the driver behind decisions and choices of what to accept or
reject, is the sin of pride, and its relative, vainglory.

Sometimes these go with success, IF circumstances are such they
favor the person with this flaw, AND he or she has a lot of skill
or "talent" in whatever is at issue. If any of these don't fit, then
failure or mediocrity may result, with concomitant envy, semi
submerged anger being in denial about one's abilities or whatever,
or just throwing over the traces and being a "rebel" considering
everything is beneath him or her anyway.

Now, I think when you have someone who studied patristics at
Oral Roberts University, and also graduated from Oxford, UK,
and wrote a book on the level of any of the ancient Fathers on
heresy and the driver behind all the Christological heresies
(not the first to identify it, but other great thinkers and writers
always draw on predecessors anyway), which is confusion
between person and nature, and translated and wrote a profound
introduction to St. Photios the Great's Mystagogy of The Holy
Spirit, still (or at least relatively recently available at St. Vladimir's
Seminary book store), and this person decides that YHWH is a
bad guy, something is wrong somewhere.

Now, the usual pattern is, either YHWH is condemned for being
too lenient, or for being too bloodthirsty. Such people can only
like a God Who is kindly and coddling and takes care of us, but
despise His justice and discipline. Some will accept justice only
if viewed as discipline to teach us and improve us, which of
course pending the Last Judgement, all justice is potentially
since it may cause one to stop and think and ask why and
sincerely seek.

This guy was Eastern Orthodox, then, not seeing the obvious
point that being Orthodox by being recognized by the Ecumenical
Patriarchate or some church in communion with them, means
that that person's or church's doctrine has been checked and
approved, ends up going vagante. That means he got a consecration
as a bishop from someone with an Apostolic Succession, but
outside any recognized Orthodox organization. While this is not
entirely outside the pale in terms of legitimacy if you go back to
basics and the earliest days, since "wandering bishops," those
who are not assigned to a specific diocese, were prohibited by
a later council because of disorders they caused, it is reason to
raise an eyebrow, though the succession he was in is one that
goes back as far as primary consecrators are concerned, if the
online information is correct, to the Russian Orthodox Church.
Exactly how that lineage went out of Russian Orthodoxy is
another matter of no importance here, but the lineage though it
includes Vilatte lineages as secondary consecrators, and Villatte
had his consecration from a monophysite source, is not primarily
of that. So if heretical successions from an Apostle are tainted,
this one is clear. (Villatte's ordination to the priesthood,
however, was RC legitimate.)

By this time, he has imbibed ormus which he figured tends to
exaggerate the users characteristics, good and bad. I would
guess this led to his further problems.

the EO is infested with rejection of the idea of God's justice
right now, so it must have been some other reason that he
went vagante. By this time, his bishop is involved in
astrology according to one source, and himself has shown
evidence of more acquaintance with books of demon
conjuring than should be the case, and a deplorable willingness
to publish demon sigils, arguing these reflect some kind of
wierd physics and not spirits. (the two issues might overlap.
that doesn't make the sigils or what they represent any less
evil.)

A major problem I suspect with this genius, is pride. AND
while denouncing the scholastics, he is an overly systematic
thinker, a system builder, like Aquinas.

In God History and the Dialectic, a brilliant book I would
recommend to everyone, and most of it is available at google
books, he not only nails the source of Christological heresies,
he then goes on to tackle the filioque, and blames that for
all tripartite containing wacko ideas from Joachim of Flores
to Hegelian Dialectic and Marxism which derives in main
part from Hegel.

While there is a lot to be said for this, one main problem
remains. Filioque or no filioque, if you are going to start
trying to draw tripartite conclusions in the physical world
from The Holy Trinity's existence, other than noticing that
threes may be a hint from The Trinity about Themself, or
a case of the artist putting something about himself in his
art, or both, you are going to get some strange results.

The system building mentality builds houses of cards,
complex houses. Or domino houses. these houses are not
entirely dependent in all cases on their components so that
if you pull one or even two out the whole thing falls, but
it will certainly, ah, restructure. Perhaps that restructured
form is like what it should have been, or perhaps it will
be a whole new error.

Systems Analysis, by the way, is NOT the same thing as
system building type thinking, mechanical, rigid, building
logically one thing on another.

There are two ways a syllogism can fail, an unexamined
wrong premise, and an unexamined non sequitur ("it does
not follow").  A flaw in either place will ruin the whole,
or most of it.

Farrell has both. Now, he is onto something with the wierd
physics. but he assumes that all the pagan pantheons,
especially those of people connected with megalith etc.
building like the Egyptians, were disguised mathematical
relationships. This may to some extent be true, but that
doesn't make them any less pagan demons and believed in
bullshit etc.

At some point he noticed that often there was some connection
between economics and priesthoods, and has drawn conclusions
and stated generalities that I don't have the time or resources to
check on.

But he points out that there is a correllation between a closed
system physics and money as monetized debt, and an open
system physics and real money (dismissed as funny money by
proponents of gold standard and central banks alike) which is
much more flexible, is based on the actual production of the
people and so forth. Adjust this a tad more, and add barter and
agreed acceptance of something easy for anyone to get ahold
of like beads and cowrie shells as mediums of exchange, and
you would solve the world's financial problems in general, and
the USA and Europe's financial problems in particular.

but now he argues that all sacrificial religious systems (blood
sacrifice, human or animal) and that of the Atonement by
Christ, is the same, which is to pay a debt. And further you
never get it paid off.

This is patently false for two reasons.

(1) all the sacrificial systems are looking to FEED A
VAMPIRE. a false god may be appeased by the pleasure
of being fed, but it is not a justice stand in for the offender.

(2) a. YHWHism almost alone makes it clear, that the God
being worshipped, the true God, does not need anything,
does not need to feed, and that the issue is substitution
of the animal for the offender who is then to lead an
exemplary life, and that also there is the matter of showing
gratitude by giving to God of what God has given to you,
not being selfish and prideful and thinking you did it all
yourself, or "mother nature" did it or whatever. God made
and directs "mother nature."

    b. Whenever did a "bankster" (banker as gangster, and
yes that is a legitimate concept) pay off the debt of the
debtor for him and extend infinite credit on top of that as
St. John Chrysostom described it? YHWH does not act
like a bankster in the Atonement.

The debt to God in part is based on our very existence, but
that is God's pleasure as well as ours. He loves His creatures.
He supports us and give us, human and animal alike, all we
need to live, though it is up to us to make do and work on it.
human sin has marred all this. It is not really DEBT in a sense
we borrowed and can pay back, but rather, all we have and all
good we are, we owe to God.

Pride of course doesn't like this. Lucifer fell in love with his
own beauty, prized himself above God and decided to place
his throne above YHWH's but was cast down instead.

but the debt of sin, is another matter. That was incurred. God
tried to prevent it but we didn't listen. HOWEVER, it is not
as simple as debt of sin or appease the honor of an agrieved
overlord.

St. Athanasius made it clear in The Divine Dilemma in
On The Incarnation, that God had the following choices. Either
let His creation go on dithering off into destruction, which would
be unfitting and better He had not created anything almost, OR
He could violate His own integrity and take back His word that
rebellion would result in death.

OR, He could take on human flesh, suffer the condemnation He
laid on us, and have His cake and eat it too as a result. This is
what He did.

(He also pulled off the greatest chess move in history. Being king
as well as God of Israel, but knowing they would eventually want
a human king, He allowed Himself to be kicked upstairs so to speak,
being God but not king anymore.

After the first king selected was a failure, He made a covenant with
the second and better king, David, and even before this, had said
through prophets that the kingship would always reside in Judah
UNTIL Shiloh, He Who Shall Rule or something like that, shall
come. In Jesus' time alone was Judah under a non Judaean king.
An Idumaean in stead. Herod and his successors.

Now, God (the Second Person of God The Trinity) Incarnates in
the royal lineage. The covenant with David had David's descendants
not just any Judaean on the throne forever.

So now, God in the Person of Jesus Christ, is King again as well
as God, and will be so forever, the Second Coming being to fulfill
the kingly role of the Messiah (Christ is Greek for Messiah, both
mean "anointed").

Now, the Atonement is the greatest act of love ever. Somehow
the devil and his all too eager workers among men, see it as an
act of hate and evil.

Remember that ALL the Trinity not just The Father was upset.
And Christ received the sacrifice of Himself just as much as did
The Father, as the AD 1156 Blachernae Constantinople Council
made clear, often MISQUOTED by EO who oppose atonement.

What it said was, that you must not only say that Christ made
the Sacrifice to The Father but to Himself also, that BOTH He
and The Father received His sacrifice for us.

It is from The Wrath of The Lamb as well as from that of The
Father that we are saved, and there was never any ransom PAID
to the devil. Redemption as one linguist pointed out, in Hebrew
conception can mean not only buying a slave's freedom, paying
a ransom to a conqueror or a kidnapper, but also can mean just
barging in and taking the captive back. The latter is what is
indicated by Christ's redemption of us, it is payment to Himself
and The Father to free us from the Wrath, and it is barging in
and taking us from the devil who Christ crippled.

EO and RC argue that the devil is bound now. That is patently
false or there would be no office of exorcist, sure the devil is
crippled, BUT Revelation speaks of him being bound for 1,000
years unable to tempt the nations. Even now, though weakened
severely, he misleads the unbelievers, "the nations," and the
believers when he can.

So the Atonement is an act of love not hate.

c. YHWH inveighed against human sacrifice, especially of infants,
and against usury meaning ANY DEGREE OF INTEREST
WHATSOEVER. It was the Venetians and Calvin who got
the RC and the Prots to decide that usury was "excessive"
interest, instead of ANY interest.

In the good old days, the way you got gain from making a loan,
was to use the land it was loaned against, or animals or machines
or tools until the debt, interest free, was paid off, or to become
a part owner in the business, and getting some of its profits, until
the debt, interest free, was paid off.

(this is still the way with Arab lenders, which makes their
money so attractive.)

SO, how exactly does YHWH pan out as a bankster?

On a Byte Show, the Aztec legends that blame the institution
of human sacrifice on one Yaotl was hawked. I got a copy of
the book that is their legends. Sure, Yaotl was the name of the
sorceror who, with Tezcatlipoca, started this evil. BUT HE
WASN'T THE ONLY PERSON WITH A YAO BEGINNING
NAME.

that writer just jumped on the Yao part of the name as
showing this was YHWH disguised or an emissary thereof.

Which is patent nonsense.

OWS

This movement Occupy Wall Street has potential to do good,
but it has stirred a lot of New Age Movement hype in their
favor and claiming they are part of the global consciousness
whatnot. Big money, supposedly the enemy camp, is back of
them as it is back of supposed enemy Tea Party.

This movement is a bit like the Arab Spring, which brought
no good to Christians, or to muslims who prefer life under
moderate regimes, because radical islam gains ground in
such chaos. Perhaps something not so good is in danger of
coming about because of all this.

It certainly would be the kind of thing, combined with any
natural disasters in the works, that could be the excuse for
martial law.

Not that martial law is all that bad in itself sometimes. But
it is a good context in which to pull some not good stuff.
it is irritating when you have curfews and so forth. it is great
when the oppressors who have made your life not worth living
and no justice can be had against them are dead in the street
because caught out under circumstances where they fit a
shoot to kill order.

but there can be a lot of really bad stuff happen also. And
the suppression of free speech and radical changes in the
Constitution and so forth are not good, when the controlling
majority or even controlling minority with guns are in favor
of policies that are evil.like the pro gay and pro abortion
agenda and pro immorality in general and the entrenchment
of corruption in a way involving adjusting laws so whatever
that is left that can be used against it is removed.

So I would be careful of the OWS. Maybe some sane
elements can gain control since it is amorphous, maybe
something more Christian specifically. And definitely not
the kind of anarchism and so forth that would give an excuse
for a crackdown.

joys - NOT - of muslim women

Joys of Muslim Women

by Nonie DarwishIn the Muslim faith a Muslim man can marry a child as young as 7 year old, consummating the marriage by 9. The dowry is given to the family in exchange for the woman (who becomes his slave) and for the purchase of the private parts of the woman, to use her as a toy.
To prove rape, the woman must have (4) male witnesses. Often, after a woman has been raped, the family has the right to execute her (an honor killing) to restore the honor of the family. Husbands can beat their wives 'at will' and the man does not have to say why he has beaten her.
The husband is permitted to have 4 wives and a temporary wife for an hour (prostitute) at his discretion.
The Sharia Muslim law controls the private as well as the public life of the woman.
In the Western World (America) Muslim men are starting to demand Sharia Law so the wife can not obtain a divorce and he can have full and complete control of her. It is amazing and alarming how many of our sisters and daughters attending US and Canadian Universities are now marrying Muslim men and submitting themselves and their children unsuspectingly to the Sharia law.
By passing this on, enlightened US and Canadian women may avoid becoming a slave under Sharia Law. Ripping the West in Two. Author and lecturer Nonie Darwish says the goal of radical Islamists is to impose Sharia law on the world, ripping Western law and liberty in two.
She recently authored the book, Cruel and Usual Punishment: The Terrifying Global Implications of Islamic Law.
Darwish was born in Cairo and spent her childhood in Egypt and Gaza before immigrating to the US in 1978, when she was eight years old. Her father died while leading covert attacks on Israel. He was a high-ranking Egyptian military officer stationed with his family in Gaza.
When he died, he was considered a "shahid," a martyr for jihad. His posthumous status earned Nonie and her family an elevated position in Muslim society.
But Darwish developed a skeptical eye at an early age. She questioned her own Muslim culture and upbringing. She converted to Christianity after hearing a Christian preacher on television.
In her latest book, Darwish warns about creeping Sharia law - what it is, what it means, and how it is manifested in Islamic countries.
For the West, she says radical Islamists are working to impose Sharia on the world. If that happens, Western civilization will be destroyed. Westerners generally assume all religions encourage a respect for the dignity of each individual. Islamic law (Sharia) teaches that non-Muslims should be subjugated or killed in this world.
Peace and prosperity for one's children is not as important as assuring that Islamic law rules everywhere in the Middle East and eventually in the world.
While Westerners tend to think that all religions encourage some form of the golden rule, Sharia teaches two systems of ethics - one for Muslims and another for non-Muslims. Building on tribal practices of the seventh century, Sharia encourages the side of humanity that wants to take from and subjugate others.
While Westerners tend to think in terms of religious people developing a personal understanding of and relationship with God, Sharia advocates executing people who ask difficult questions that could be interpreted as criticism.
It's hard to imagine, that in this day and age, Islamic scholars agree that those who criticize Islam or choose to stop being Muslim should be executed. Sadly, while talk of an Islamic reformation is common and even assumed by many in the West, such murmurings in the Middle East are silenced through intimidation.
While Westerners are accustomed to an increase in religious tolerance over time, Darwish explains how petro dollars are being used to grow an extremely intolerant form of political Islam in her native Egypt and elsewhere.
In twenty years there will be enough Muslim voters in the U.S. and Canada to elect the President or Prime Minister by themselves! Rest assured they will do so... You can look at how they have taken over several towns in the USA and Canada, Dearborn Mich. is one, Brampton, Ontario is another and there are others...
I think everyone in the U.S. and Canada should be required to read this, but with the ACLU, there is no way this will be widely publicized.
It is too bad that so many are disillusioned with life and Christianity to accept Muslims as peaceful.. some may be, but they have an army that is willing to shed blood in the name of Islam using the peaceful support, the warriors with their finances and own kind of patriotism to their religion. While the US and Canada are getting rid of Christianity from all public sites and erasing God from the lives of children the Muslims are planning a great jihad on the US and Canada...