Another thing on Davesweb you should pay attention to

Strange deaths probably politically motivated murders, of
Carnahan, Boggs, etc., phony liberals, and economics as
a pseudo science and even scarier stuff.  (Even
if his slightly overly anti capitalist leanings and personal
bias as a smoker might color his judgement, he gives
sources on everything.) Read on.

Abiotic Oil vs. Peak Oil

Abiotic oil refers to the non biological, i.e., not fossil, origin of
oil. This link http://www.davesweb.cnchost.com/nwsltr52.html
gives the basic case for it.

Peak oil refers to the biological or at least non renewable origin
of oil. This involves production reaching a peak, then tapering
off. This is a known phenomenon of oil wells. The implication
of course, largely ignored by the public until recently, is that
someday there will be no more oil to get. All fields will peak,
taper off and finally the world production will be down to the
early days of oil production around the turn of the 20th century
from the 19th.

Davesweb has some interesting stuff on it, the best is the
analysis of Laurel Canyon oddities in the music industry, and
in Hollywood anyway. While Alex Constantine argues that
the government has been surreptitiously making a war on the
counter culture music industry, a more convincing case is
by Dave and others, that the counterculture was created by
the CIA and others, to discredit the non hippy non radical
opposition to the Viet Nam war, and probably furthering
other cultic interests as well. Other stuff may be beyond his
level of competence, and isn't that important anyway.

(for instance, it really doesn't matter whether the Twin Towers
collapse was helped by explosives in place or the result of
heated NOT melted steel that bowed just enough to slip
off the projections from the support scaffolding that held
the floor scaffolding, resulting in pancaking as the weight
was more than the other floors could hold.

What matters is what Dave Emory would call the milieu 
in which it happened, i.e., the proven indications of
prior knowledge by financial and political interests in 
the USA and Europe, and Bush circle and family 
alliances with the Bin Laden family and others who 
gained from all this. Either way, you have USA 
government complicity.)


Dave argues that since Mike Ruppert doesn't seem to
argue against war (seems to me he is taking it for granted
that it is bad and only helping closet nazis etc.,) and not
proposing any alternative to oil as viable, that he is
effectively arguing in support of war to take over the
Middle East, since it is positioned to have control of all
future oil supplies.

The Peak Oil thing, argues Ruppert, is the hidden reason
for all the wars. But making it public to the public makes
them trust the government war machine propaganda less.

Davesweb argues that Ruppert is just engaging in war
propaganda while pretending not to, since he is making
an excellent case, as are all Peak Oil promoters, for the
USA taking over the Middle East. Even if not saying we
should do so, such writing provides a motive.

Abiotic Oil, however, does not solve the problem. The
occasional refill of an oil well, is not invariable and
universal. It may reflect seepage from an as yet unknown
oil deposit, not seepage from ongoing production.

Even if it does reflect ongoing production, this is not
apparently going on everywhere, and it goes on slower
than the oil is pumped out.

So Peak or Abiotic, it doesn't matter. There is a shortage
looming. Granted prices were artificially kept high, by
the cartel controlling availability. (I wonder if some
collusion is done by the non Middle Eastern producers,
since the price of oil seems to be uniform, regardless
of the source. And new oil finds keep happening.)

But even though the predicted peak has been bumped
forward in time by some, there is slowing production
and increasing demand, so a real shortage is probably
coming, and Ruppert to the contrary notwithstanding, the
presently crude and inefficient alternatives are not much
worse than the early crude and inefficient gasoline engines.

The artificial production of crude oil, and of diesel, some
plants sap are basically pure diesel, is another angle to
play to buy time, or supplement the alternative sources.

Meanwhile, while we screw around irritating people,
coalitions build. Iran, China, Russia, Venezuela.

We should quit irritating people, before we get taken
down. What a superpower might or might not be able
to do, a coalition of many could do nicely, and without
necessarily using nuclear weapons beyond maybe a
few low yield devices here and there.

What is wrong with this picture(s)?

Look very closely. On the left, she looks too smooth in parts of her face, like she is
some alien hybrid related to the sort in "Earth Final Conflict". This is less evident in
the photo on the right, but even there obviously she has had some cosmetic surgery
workover to give an effect. Or she has some real weird DNA.

Second, look at the cleavage. Aside from the probably enhanced boobs, right
between them is an UPSIDE DOWN CROSS.

This is present in both photos, with the right side photo having an additional
low hanging cross, that might be upright or equilateral, but since it lies
lower than the inverted cross, it would seem to be saying that the satanic
cross is ruling over the Christian cross. Also, being much lower, it seems to
point to her pelvis.

Note her political interests, her interest in powerful and rich men, and the
cute use of the name "Wicked Models." Satanism of the sort I call classy
or philosophical, pretends to be harmless to children and animals (probably
only harmless to vicious ones), but preaches an ego uber alles approach
that is compatible with anything. It only takes an individual of this philosophy,
who adds on the satanic "principle" of indulgence instead of abstinence,
and you have anything possible.

Finishing the picture for now, is her alliance with that lawyer who represented
David "Son of Sam" Berkowitz.

Berkowitz is now a Christian and repentant. But he has repeatedly said
he cannot tell all he knows or name all the names that are part of this
bigger picture that includes rape, drugs, prostitution, and murder whether
ritualistic or otherwise, because his mother would be in danger.

And having a cult bigwig as his lawyer would be a perfect way to keep
him apprised of these things if he wavered. My guess is, that his lawyer
was provided by the cult, either directly or by some finagling, to keep
the lines of communication - and threat - open.

Alex Constantine is always changing his URL I don't know why.
here is the new link.

http://www.constantinereport.com/spitzers-madam-plans-to-run-for-outgoing-ny-gov-pattersons-seat-and-her-key-campaign-advisor-is-the-gops-roger-stone/

Latent Donatism and Fear of Scandal regarding pedophile priests

The Donatist heresy,back in the early days, held that
the validity or reality of the sacraments, their effectiveness,
depended on the holiness and virtue of the priest.

As St. Augustine pointed out, if this were so no one could
ever tell for sure if they were baptized, or if anyone was
ordained, or whatever. The chain could be broken at any
point, unbeknownst to anyone because of sins the priests
and bishops kept secret.

The fear of scandal harming the Universal or Catholic
Church, apparently only happens when sexual sins are at
issue, but not when an open marriage or a disobedience
issue occurs, which can get someone defrocked quickly
enough.

is essentially and probably unconsciously assuming a 
prevalence of Donatist attitude even if not explicit
 heretical opinion, but at the emotional level, in the 
laity, and furthermore, a catering to it, a coddling of it,
instead of addressing the error itself.


That is of course assuming that fear of scandal is
 the real reason, and not that such defrocking will 
open a barrell of worms consisting of a larger 
number of either heterosexually or homosexually 
active priests, even if most are not pedophiles or 
coercive, being discovered and a resultant 
depopulation of the  priesthood.

Indeed, the rule that you have to be legitimate to get

 ordained 

dates to centuries ago when priests and 

bishops were trying 

to establish dynasties involving 

their illegitimate sons, and this 

was blocked.

Donatism was put down long ago. Something someone 
on an Orthodox egroup called the gag factor is not the 
same thing. That is where you don't question the validity 
of the sacrament (eucharist usually) but are distracted
from it by your knowledge of the sinfulness and evil of 
the priest.  This is easily dealt with by seeking it from 
another priest. 

Myself, I am Orthodox, but I suspect the orders of the
Anglicans are legitimate and ordained is ordained, male
or female, so in theory that is the Body and Blood
of Christ in the Eucharist performed by a woman priest.
 HOWEVER, even if I were given permission by my
priest or bishop to partake of the Eucharist from an
Anglican, I would not do so at the hands of some
openly lesbian women priests I know of nearby,
because I would be distracted from the Eucharist by
my knowledge of who was handing it to me, and might
not partake of the Body and Blood of Christ properly '
perceiving it to be so, and instead be thinking about
what grosses me out about the people involved.

Same deal with an Orthodox priest, if I knew too much
and couldn't think of Christ instead of the priest I would
go to another Orthodox priest. I do not question the
validity of the sacrament in his hands, but I do not want
to partake of it in a distracted state of mind.

The Roman Catholic church, in schism from the Eastern
Orthodox, being the only Apostolic or for that matter
Petrine See in the west, but these were a dime a dozen
in the east so the claims of Rome fell on deaf ears, has
apparently adopted an approach, that either bespeaks
fear of discovery of an enormous problem, or an
allowing of laity to continue in a Donatist mindset, since
it fears scandal.

The Orthodox Church in America has apparently run
afoul of similar tendencies. But their Holy Water is
still as strong as The Ecumenical Patriarchate following
Greek Orthodox, and stronger than Roman Catholic.

Justina

The Ability of the Black Budget crew to keep a secret

Those who buy the line that no ET or UFO or suchlike 
secrets could be kept without leaks, and that a 
conspiracy can't be kept quiet, should consider the 
following that refutes that. (Plus, the UFO scene is 
constantly having leaks that are dismissed as 
fraud, some are of course, and then ignored so it 
can be pretended that no leaks have ever occurred.)




From the Cryptogon site.


April 4th, 2010

Blank Spots on the Map:

And then there was Dan Vanderhorst, who “has been the lead pilot on seven classified aircraft to date.” In fact, according to his biography, “Vanderhorst has made his career in the cockpit of so many classified aircraft, there is not much that we can say about him, on the record,” and “his work has been outstanding and will probably never be recognized by the general public.” Although Vanderhorst was honored that evening, he wasn’t able to make it to his own party: He was “working at Edawrds AFB on a classified program.”

The silences, absences, and unsaid implications in these men’s biographies were like blank spots on maps. They were guides to the places where the public record ran out. The carefully constructed blank spots in Vanderhorst’s biography alone had remarkable implications. To build a single aircraft is a tremendous financial, industrial, and intellectual undertaking. Building an airplane means spending millions or billions of dollars with dedicated factories, test facilities, and countless workers from janitors to managers, pilots to machinists. Vanderhorst, one pilot, had flown seven. In the first instance, his biography spoke to the scale of the classified flight test industry. It pointed to a hidden geography of finance, research, development, engineering, manufacturing, and testing projects as complicated and industrialized as modern airplanes. Second, his biography spoke to the black world’s ability to keep a secret, about not only the physical but the social engineering that goes into building classified aircraft.

…

Given the number of personnel and the amount of money invested in developing an aircraft, the fact that there aren’t more credible leaks, more inadvertently declassified histories or photos, or more disgruntled ex-officers willing to spill the secrets out into the open means that the secrecy enveloping Vanderhorst’s biography is a remarkable feat of social engineering. Finally, this pilot’s biography says something about the dynamics of secrecy: If Vanderhorst alone piloted seven classified, manned aircraft, and if the three previously classified aircraft at the Gathering of Eagles represent the sum of the black aircraft that have made their way “into the blue” since the 1970s, then the declassified record represents an exception to the rule rather than the rule itself. HAVE BLUE, TACIT BLUE, and Bird of Prey are not unusual in that they were secret. They’re unusual because they are not secret anymore. Long after their retirement, most black airplanes stay black.