Thursday, November 14, 2019

Date of Daniel

"scholars" and critics work from the bias that of course the
supernatural is nonexistent, prophecy can't happen for real,
ergo, Daniel was written after the events he so precisely
foretold.

Some who favor psychism and suchlike (and idiots among
Christians who follow Nostradamus the all incoherent) might
try to view Daniel as looking into some other timeline or being
precognitive, but ignore the theological implications of his
visions (if they are New Age, and two very good blogs on this
New Age nonsense are http://cumbey.blogspot.com and
http://fightthenewage.blogspot.com ).

Daniel did not engage in any rituals or devices like crystal
balls or whatever. And he was totally loyal to YHWH to the
point of going vegan rather than eat meat that was unclean
or might have been sacrificed to idols in Nebuchadnezzar's
court. Hopefully once he gained status he was able to arrange
more healthy meat diets for himself and his friends, that was
kosher, but miraculously God made them prosper on veggies.

Daniel lived at a critical point in the history of Israel, Judea
especially, and therefore in a critical point in the history of
the world, though he and others probably didn't realize the
latter. And he asked God for knowledge, and to fulfill the
promise of restoration after 70 years, and sometimes received
information unrequested.

Daniel was able to decipher Nebuchadnezzar's dream, and
received dreams and visions himself, and visitation from angels.

"There is an excellent article [about Daniel in the Dead sea Scrolls]
http://www.christian-thinktank.com/qwhendan3a.html  ...Date
of Daniel Let me give you a synopsis. The answer is that we have 
both Daniel manuscripts and quotes of Qumran authors from 
Daniel, labeling it as scripture, from the second half of the second century BCE in the Dead Sea Scrolls. There are a total of eight 
known manuscript fragments from Daniel so far in the Dead Sea 
Scrolls, including fragments from every chapter except Daniel 12.

Besides, a passage from Daniel 12 is quoted by an author in one of 
the Dead Sea Scrolls. From this information we can say that the 
book of Daniel was definitely accepted as inspired and 
canonical by about 150 BCE or so, making the claim that it was 
written by a fake Daniel around 160 BCE seem impossible to 
support by credible argument. The likelihood that a 
pseudepigraphical (ie an autobiography by a fake author) Daniel 
would have been circulated and accepted by the Jews 
as a whole as scripture within ten or so years is essentially zero. 

In fact, the Dead Sea MSS evidence argues for a date of writing at least before 250 BCE, and most likely one hundred years before that date...."

Daniel tells details on Antiochus IV Epiphanes, the prototype for 
the antichrist, that were almost all fulfilled as reported by the
Book of Macabbees (never mind if it was inspired it was 
eyewitness historical material) and Josephus would have dealt with 
this also.

not all were fulfilled, so the early church fathers despite 
knowing about Antiochus and about Nero still expected the 
antichrist to arise in future. There are lesser antichrists and THE antichrist. 

When that happens, what Antiochus IV Epiphanes did will be
redone in spades and what he didn't do will get done.

Daniel's four beast dream was considered by at least one early
church writer and by almost all bible interpreters till recently,
to be a rehash of the statue dream of Nebuchadnezzar.

But two things rule this out.

Daniel said that the fourth beast would crush and trample the
prior three, which would still exist however and be given some
continuation of their lives after what looks it can only be the
Second Coming of Christ and the destruction of the fourth 
beast. 

So the other three aren't sequential ancestors the fourth inherits
from, and those who still try to fit them into antiquity, treat them
as a continuation.

The second issue is that the angel tells Daniel that these are 
four kings, or kingdoms, that will come after him. This revelation
was in the Persian time, so Daniel was living in the time of the 
second beast if it is just a rehash so why was he not told it was
TWO not four kings to come after him? This is why some try
to treat them as not a rehash but a continuation and still in 
antiquity.

Chris White on youtube telling how to spot the antichrist but
not trying to identify the four beasts cued me to this issue. When
I went digging, it looked like the winged lion is USA-Britain-NATO, the bear is Russia, the four headed four winged leopard
is China (or maybe India but unlikely) and the fourth and
indescribable beast is something that will arise out of Africa and
conquer all of the foregoing, and the foundation for this may 

http://seventhchapterofdaniel.blogspot.com discusses all this, start with earliest posts. 

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