We will collapse eventually, all empires do. Even our 50 states are a
classic example of empire conducted by expanding the borders,
and redefining the geography of the country itself. Imperial China
and Nazi Germany and ancient Rome are all cases in point.
we should be thinking about this. and about what those who want
no govt. involvement in everything have set us up for.
I oppose abortion, perversion, sexism support govt. intervention w. limits I think outside the box. Eastern Orthodox but against Serbian cultic nationalism and imperialism. THIS SITE MAY USE COOKIES AND I CAN'T MAKE ANYTHING WORK TO GIVE YOU A CHOICE USE AT YOUR OWN RISK I DON'T KNOW IF THERE ARE COOKIES OR NOT.
Thursday, August 25, 2011
GET A LOAD OF THIS STUFF NOW!
Sunday, August 21, 2011
Why the Mainstream Media Are Clueless About the Religious Right
To read this article, click on the link.
http://www.alternet.org/module/printversion/152053
Now, as you may gather, I am leftist some ways, and
rightist other ways. This is because I actually read The
Bible, not just the excerpts to support an agenda. The
latter is how I was for some years drawn away from God
into a political mindframe, been there, done that, repented
of it.
In the article is this:
"The Pew 2006 survey found that nearly one-third of Americans
said they felt the law of the Bible should outweigh citizen
preferences in the formation of civil law."
http://pewforum.org/Politics-and-Elections/Many-Americans-Uneasy-with-Mix-of-Religion-and-Politics.aspx#2
Now I for one would agree with this, except for one thing.
Just how would these laws be understood by the proposed law
writers? how would they be interpreted and applied?
Given the kind of Biblical exegesis some of the Christian Reconstruction,
and more extreme, and Dominionist heretics, and even Christian Identity
crews make use of, to support things that are barely tolerated and in
some cases prohibited by The Bible, I am not too sure that I want people
who want Bible Law running things in charge.
And I am not sure that they realize, that the person standing next to
them shoulder to shoulder in agreement with them on this, may have a
diametrically opposed idea of what that law and its application should be.
First, you have to distinguish between things that were a special performance
part of the human side of God's covenant with Israel, and those things that
were laws that expressed His righteousness in general.
Within that latter category, you will find some flexibility, something not
understood by Bible lawyers, or by those who exploit these to argue that
there is contradiction within The Bible.
A good example would be prohibition on going up to God's altar by steps,
so that their nakedness under their robes (both sexes wore dresses back
then, the only difference was cut and style), supplanted by the order to
wear breeches which then allowed steps to be used.
In some cases you have a mix of specifics and evidence code thrown
in one piece, in others there are statements that stand alone, absolutes,
and others that are dependent on circumstance, where the goal is stated,
and in that circumstance the goal is furthered best by that law. But in
another context, that goal might not be helped, perhaps even hindered,
so of course, to accomplish that goal, you are going to have to take a
different tack.
When you start with Genesis chapters 2 and 3, and move on, you get
some bigger picture. And certain things that are called abomination,
like eating certain animals, are rescinded in Christ, as per the vision to
Peter, and what Christ taught Paul in the wilderness (see Acts and
Galatians respectively), while other things called abomination, like
human sacrifice of infants and sacrificing to false gods and homosexual
acts (regardless of the role played) and prostitution are clearly still
abomination, as per Paul, and always were abomination, as per Genesis.
it is a bit more complex than opening the state penal code to see what
it has to say on something.
The proposed Jubilee laws some want, which would cancel the remains
of unpaid debts every 50 years, are a good idea as long as understood
as following God's desire for mercy and prevention of debt slavery.
There was a similar law for every 7 years, which is probably the reason
why bankruptcy is generally allowed only once every 7 years. This
was an automatic debt forgiveness and slave release.
Justina
http://www.alternet.org/module/printversion/152053
Now, as you may gather, I am leftist some ways, and
rightist other ways. This is because I actually read The
Bible, not just the excerpts to support an agenda. The
latter is how I was for some years drawn away from God
into a political mindframe, been there, done that, repented
of it.
In the article is this:
"The Pew 2006 survey found that nearly one-third of Americans
said they felt the law of the Bible should outweigh citizen
preferences in the formation of civil law."
http://pewforum.org/Politics-and-Elections/Many-Americans-Uneasy-with-Mix-of-Religion-and-Politics.aspx#2
Now I for one would agree with this, except for one thing.
Just how would these laws be understood by the proposed law
writers? how would they be interpreted and applied?
Given the kind of Biblical exegesis some of the Christian Reconstruction,
and more extreme, and Dominionist heretics, and even Christian Identity
crews make use of, to support things that are barely tolerated and in
some cases prohibited by The Bible, I am not too sure that I want people
who want Bible Law running things in charge.
And I am not sure that they realize, that the person standing next to
them shoulder to shoulder in agreement with them on this, may have a
diametrically opposed idea of what that law and its application should be.
First, you have to distinguish between things that were a special performance
part of the human side of God's covenant with Israel, and those things that
were laws that expressed His righteousness in general.
Within that latter category, you will find some flexibility, something not
understood by Bible lawyers, or by those who exploit these to argue that
there is contradiction within The Bible.
A good example would be prohibition on going up to God's altar by steps,
so that their nakedness under their robes (both sexes wore dresses back
then, the only difference was cut and style), supplanted by the order to
wear breeches which then allowed steps to be used.
In some cases you have a mix of specifics and evidence code thrown
in one piece, in others there are statements that stand alone, absolutes,
and others that are dependent on circumstance, where the goal is stated,
and in that circumstance the goal is furthered best by that law. But in
another context, that goal might not be helped, perhaps even hindered,
so of course, to accomplish that goal, you are going to have to take a
different tack.
When you start with Genesis chapters 2 and 3, and move on, you get
some bigger picture. And certain things that are called abomination,
like eating certain animals, are rescinded in Christ, as per the vision to
Peter, and what Christ taught Paul in the wilderness (see Acts and
Galatians respectively), while other things called abomination, like
human sacrifice of infants and sacrificing to false gods and homosexual
acts (regardless of the role played) and prostitution are clearly still
abomination, as per Paul, and always were abomination, as per Genesis.
it is a bit more complex than opening the state penal code to see what
it has to say on something.
The proposed Jubilee laws some want, which would cancel the remains
of unpaid debts every 50 years, are a good idea as long as understood
as following God's desire for mercy and prevention of debt slavery.
There was a similar law for every 7 years, which is probably the reason
why bankruptcy is generally allowed only once every 7 years. This
was an automatic debt forgiveness and slave release.
Justina
Sunday, August 14, 2011
Somebody sent me this
The tribal wisdom of the Lakota Sioux, passed on from generation to generation, says that when you discover that you are riding a dead horse, the best strategy is to dismount.
However, in government, (sounds a bit like BLM's Wild Horse Management) education, and corporate America, more advanced strategies are often employed:
1. Buying a bigger whip.
2. Changing riders.
3. Appointing a committee to study the horse.
4. Arranging to visit other countries to see how other cultures ride dead horses.
5. Lowering the standards so that dead horses can be included.
6. Reclassifying the dead horse as living-impaired.
7. Hiring outside contractors to ride the dead horse.
8. Harnessing several dead horses together to increase speed.
9. Providing additional funding and/or training to increase dead horse's performance.
10. Doing a productivity study to see if lighter riders would improve the dead horse's performance.
11. Declaring that as the dead horse does not have to be fed, it is less costly, carries lower overhead and therefore contributes substantially more to the bottom line of the economy than do some other horses.
12. Rewriting the performance requirements for all horses.
And, of course, the most common solution:
13. Promoting the dead horse to a supervisory position.
Friday, August 12, 2011
Christians ought to listen to this. occultism deception in evangelical scene
This interview shows that there was New Age luciferic influence personal and financial
on the evangelical scene, at the level of leadership, from the early 1980s on.
on the evangelical scene, at the level of leadership, from the early 1980s on.
Monday, August 8, 2011
Did the Dimona Dozen murder the Fukushima 50? Fukushima may in fact have been caused by an act of war under the cover of an environmental disaster.
This makes an extremely good case that
there was something artificial about the
Fukushima disaster.
there was something artificial about the
Fukushima disaster.
Friday, August 5, 2011
A Study in Disinformation notes on Mind Control
Caveat: I don't doubt some kind of mind control experiments have gone
on, this is shown in the declassified MKULTRA and related documents,
also an interest in the occult, though from another printed source, it
seems that the Office of Naval Intelligence, and I think their British
equivalent, predated everyone in looking into the occult for usefulness.
HOWEVER there are two severe problems in connection with all the
public whistleblower ex members of same.
1. the very fact that they were under the influence of drugs and hypnosis,
and that this usually began as children, means that the details on the
memories are open to dispute, as containing errors, whether of omission
or of fact. And they are dependent on the very people who were messing
with their minds, to know just what the purposes and origins were.
this includes the possibility of being programmed to play whistleblower,
with wrong information, incl. dates and so forth, and to previously
generate a lifestyle or other facts about themselves, that on being checked
on won't prove credible.
the exposure of mind control experimentation began on an official
basis in the 1970s. I think all the victims who came foreward, did so
later. It would make sense, that either in anticipation of such trouble,
or as it began, that people would be set up to be unknowing disinformation
operatives, revealing things that while on overview are true, and contain
some facts even about individuals involved, contain enough b.s. that
the whole thing will be dismissed by the public as nonsense, which by
and large is what has happened.
2. Deliberate disinformation agents. And I think this page I am linking
to is a case of that. for example, it gives the address for some Muslim
Illuminati, which is the address of the Zoroastrian Center in that British
city. Zoroastrians are not muslims, and vice versa. there are other things
in this story that are either anything he could have got off the web, like
the fact that someone named Noonan was a crime family boss in England,
or that someone of his own last name was a WW II ace or something like
that. There is only his word, absent time and money consuming research,
that they are related. Fritz Springmeier's books are a named source, so
there is information he can use already public, whether entirely correct
itself or not is another matter, so the whole story can be put together
without depending on imagination or personal knowledge.
Factored into this, is the claim that the Illuminati are doing this for
our own good, to make warriors to fight the coming alien invasion.
Perhaps some individual handlers have been fed this, perhaps there is
some truth to it, but if so, it is only because these people are seeing
the aliens as rivals to them for power, and not because they give a
damn about us.
It is only a case of one set of hunters fighting another over a herd
of deer they want to eat.
It is my opinion that this page is a case of number 2, though I
suppose the same effect could be done by giving a programmed
person false information to accomplish the same effect. The only
difference is the issue of, is this person knowingly lying and
serving the evil people, or is he in all innocence trying to tell us
things that he thinks are true?
The Zoroastrian Center address being given as the address for
muslim illuminati is in the category of so easy for him to know
is wrong, that I can only conclude that this guy is either a
knowing disinformation agent for the evil people, or that he
never bothered to go to or check on that address himself. I think
the latter is unlikely.
Another problem is his use of the term archaeometry to mean remote
viewing. That is nothing to do with it. Check wikipedia. it is all
the various non paranormal ways, incl. radiometric and many
other ways, of studying and finding archaeological site and
artifacts.
Another problem is his mentioning of the Necronomicon, as
one of the ancient occult books studied by these rogue
government agencies. While I don't doubt this sometimes
happened, the Necronomicon was made up by H. P. Lovecraft
for his horror stories, and the efforts to make one did not
occur until decades after the time Casbolt refers to.
The dates given for the alleged US treaties with the grey
aliens allowing abductions, are wrong. the support of Bill
Deagle makes him ipso facto highly questionable, and he
promotes the NESARA fraud.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NESARA
The Airship Mystery he refers to in 1896, did NOT involve
glowing orbs, but blimp like things with propellers.
the refence to knights and so forth just appeals to a sense
of specialness, the allegation the pleiadeans wouldn't stand
for what goes on underground if they knew, is ridiculous
(assuming they exist) because given all the stuff about it
they must know (assuming they exist), and weren't they
the same ones he claimed earlier gave technology to the
Nazis?
What is probably much more likely the real thing, is the case
of two men who quietly approached clergyman Ray Boeche,
about some military or other intelligence agency they were
working with having gotten into black magic and demon
conjuring to do their work, and these men were upset about
this, but went back to work for these people anyway, which
puzzled Boeche. Nothing more is published about this that
I have seen.
Also, there is a book out about contacts sought by American
forces with the djinn in Arabia. Highly possible.
Also, the assassination of people trying to tell or learn the truth,
if true, is hardly a testimony to the goodness of intention of any
faction of the mind control crew.
basically, I think that if there are two factions, one bunch loyal
to the damn devil, and another not, is that the second bunch
either want to cut their own deal and ace out the first group, and
such witch wars are nothing unusual, or they see any kind of
rule over them as obnoxious, whether of God, or of the devil,
or of the rival group.
But as for the rest of us, it boils down to us are prey, and two
or more tribes of hunters are fighting over us. none of them
have our best interests at heart, and if "the human race" is at
stake, it only means them. they are "the human race" and
everyone else, you and me, are mere food and slaves.
this whole mind control stuff is not unlike the SRA survivors,
who I think fall in the category of number 1.
Both mind control experiments and SRA (satanic ritual abuse)
share this feature: the result is a totally messed up person, as
likely to be an out of control perpetual teen on drugs and unreliable
as hell as anything else.
So read this stuff carefully, and excerpt such as is of use to you.
Justina
on, this is shown in the declassified MKULTRA and related documents,
also an interest in the occult, though from another printed source, it
seems that the Office of Naval Intelligence, and I think their British
equivalent, predated everyone in looking into the occult for usefulness.
HOWEVER there are two severe problems in connection with all the
public whistleblower ex members of same.
1. the very fact that they were under the influence of drugs and hypnosis,
and that this usually began as children, means that the details on the
memories are open to dispute, as containing errors, whether of omission
or of fact. And they are dependent on the very people who were messing
with their minds, to know just what the purposes and origins were.
this includes the possibility of being programmed to play whistleblower,
with wrong information, incl. dates and so forth, and to previously
generate a lifestyle or other facts about themselves, that on being checked
on won't prove credible.
the exposure of mind control experimentation began on an official
basis in the 1970s. I think all the victims who came foreward, did so
later. It would make sense, that either in anticipation of such trouble,
or as it began, that people would be set up to be unknowing disinformation
operatives, revealing things that while on overview are true, and contain
some facts even about individuals involved, contain enough b.s. that
the whole thing will be dismissed by the public as nonsense, which by
and large is what has happened.
2. Deliberate disinformation agents. And I think this page I am linking
to is a case of that. for example, it gives the address for some Muslim
Illuminati, which is the address of the Zoroastrian Center in that British
city. Zoroastrians are not muslims, and vice versa. there are other things
in this story that are either anything he could have got off the web, like
the fact that someone named Noonan was a crime family boss in England,
or that someone of his own last name was a WW II ace or something like
that. There is only his word, absent time and money consuming research,
that they are related. Fritz Springmeier's books are a named source, so
there is information he can use already public, whether entirely correct
itself or not is another matter, so the whole story can be put together
without depending on imagination or personal knowledge.
Factored into this, is the claim that the Illuminati are doing this for
our own good, to make warriors to fight the coming alien invasion.
Perhaps some individual handlers have been fed this, perhaps there is
some truth to it, but if so, it is only because these people are seeing
the aliens as rivals to them for power, and not because they give a
damn about us.
It is only a case of one set of hunters fighting another over a herd
of deer they want to eat.
It is my opinion that this page is a case of number 2, though I
suppose the same effect could be done by giving a programmed
person false information to accomplish the same effect. The only
difference is the issue of, is this person knowingly lying and
serving the evil people, or is he in all innocence trying to tell us
things that he thinks are true?
The Zoroastrian Center address being given as the address for
muslim illuminati is in the category of so easy for him to know
is wrong, that I can only conclude that this guy is either a
knowing disinformation agent for the evil people, or that he
never bothered to go to or check on that address himself. I think
the latter is unlikely.
Another problem is his use of the term archaeometry to mean remote
viewing. That is nothing to do with it. Check wikipedia. it is all
the various non paranormal ways, incl. radiometric and many
other ways, of studying and finding archaeological site and
artifacts.
Another problem is his mentioning of the Necronomicon, as
one of the ancient occult books studied by these rogue
government agencies. While I don't doubt this sometimes
happened, the Necronomicon was made up by H. P. Lovecraft
for his horror stories, and the efforts to make one did not
occur until decades after the time Casbolt refers to.
The dates given for the alleged US treaties with the grey
aliens allowing abductions, are wrong. the support of Bill
Deagle makes him ipso facto highly questionable, and he
promotes the NESARA fraud.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NESARA
The Airship Mystery he refers to in 1896, did NOT involve
glowing orbs, but blimp like things with propellers.
the refence to knights and so forth just appeals to a sense
of specialness, the allegation the pleiadeans wouldn't stand
for what goes on underground if they knew, is ridiculous
(assuming they exist) because given all the stuff about it
they must know (assuming they exist), and weren't they
the same ones he claimed earlier gave technology to the
Nazis?
What is probably much more likely the real thing, is the case
of two men who quietly approached clergyman Ray Boeche,
about some military or other intelligence agency they were
working with having gotten into black magic and demon
conjuring to do their work, and these men were upset about
this, but went back to work for these people anyway, which
puzzled Boeche. Nothing more is published about this that
I have seen.
Also, there is a book out about contacts sought by American
forces with the djinn in Arabia. Highly possible.
Also, the assassination of people trying to tell or learn the truth,
if true, is hardly a testimony to the goodness of intention of any
faction of the mind control crew.
basically, I think that if there are two factions, one bunch loyal
to the damn devil, and another not, is that the second bunch
either want to cut their own deal and ace out the first group, and
such witch wars are nothing unusual, or they see any kind of
rule over them as obnoxious, whether of God, or of the devil,
or of the rival group.
But as for the rest of us, it boils down to us are prey, and two
or more tribes of hunters are fighting over us. none of them
have our best interests at heart, and if "the human race" is at
stake, it only means them. they are "the human race" and
everyone else, you and me, are mere food and slaves.
this whole mind control stuff is not unlike the SRA survivors,
who I think fall in the category of number 1.
Both mind control experiments and SRA (satanic ritual abuse)
share this feature: the result is a totally messed up person, as
likely to be an out of control perpetual teen on drugs and unreliable
as hell as anything else.
So read this stuff carefully, and excerpt such as is of use to you.
Justina
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