Friday, November 30, 2012

I posted this to a UFO egroup

This could get complicated. First let's look at what someone said,
I am not sure who originated it, but a friend of mine said this, after
looking at local behavior and history. 

"people do what works until it doesn't work anymore, and then
they do something else."

The gnostics, working from the idea that matter is inherently evil
and the most high God wouldn't have made it, posited someone
higher than YHWH and demoted YHWH to being the demiurge.

Most practical minded people liking to eat and stay alive and
enjoying matter tend to credit the physical world to whoever they
consider is deity or the older deities or a most ancient deity who
is then usually ignored and treated as supplanted by lesser ones.

The Hebrew Christian perspective is that The Most High God made
all things visible and invisible, matter and spirit, and made all things
good, but some changes happened later.

So the pedigree building game of the gnostics, was probably done
back in early times, when the worship of heroes and personifications
and occasional demoniacal manifestations, took the place of the
worship of The Most High God.

So let's look at the near universal legend (I won't say myth because
this sounds like it is totally false, and has at best some subjective
value, which is by definition deceptive). If something horrific occurred
once, and memory faded and various people with axes to grind all
tended to rewrite history somewhat anyway, you could expect to find
a core similarity - Flood, a few escaped in a boat or on a mountain 
which latter would be memory of the Ark having landed- and not much
else between the stories. 

So in those cultures with writing back to nearer that time, who is 
the boat maker and who is his god? those cultures are to be preferred
because once something, however twisted, is in writing, it doesn't 
change especially when you write on clay tablets which are cumbersome.

The question is, Who is the God of Noah? Who warned him?

Let's reframe that question, who is the oldest Noah equivalent? Okay
that's Utnapishtim and Atrahasis. So Who is the God
of Utnapishtim?

The answer is Ea. Now, by the time of the writings at issue, Ea had
all kinds of myths about him and was two or three generations down
from the top dogs, er, gods. But let's assume that was part of the then
NWO game, and not original.

Of particular interest is the Babylonian poem Seven Are They, in
either variations or segments online, but part of it says that the
seven demons or seven categories of demon are friendly to or
work for the "gods" except for one. 

They are afraid of Ea.

Sumerian Enki is equivalent to Ea, but some people who like devils
are using that name as a devil figure so let's leave it out. Both stories
rank the deity that helped the ark maker as lower than other deities.

Surviving languages are almost none of them related to Sumerian,
so we can leave Atrahasis and Enki out and look for similarities elsewhere.

So now we got a deity who helped a man and his familly escape
The Flood, and who is a terror to demons. Is this beginning to sound

Ea is equivalent to north semitic Ya and Hebrew YHWH is like The Self
Existent Eternal Creator of all Life (wh being related to hwy life as I
recall). The One WHO IS (as distinct from Plotinus' impersonal one THAT is).

Interestingly, Egypt's earliest god was called A-a. Sounds similar.